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Answer question 2 or 3 in Emerging page 307

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Answer # 2 or 3 of the questions for critical reading by writing a comment.  Remember to read another student’s comment and come to class with your response.

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  1. Question Three

    Culture factor is a major topic addressed in Munoz’s piece. In fact, a motif of the passage is the large amount of ignorance surrounding the understanding of culture, ethnicity, and race. Munoz tries to set the boundary between them and uses his personal experiences to set them apart. Within the first few lines of the piece, Munoz defines what race really means in today’s day and age. ‘The way the name was pronounced by the gate agent made me want to see what she looked like. That is, I wanted to see whether she was Mexican.” It is all about appearances, because we make it that way. Our race becomes a way to define us in an arbitrary category. As Munoz says, “identity politics rarely deepen into exacting terms.” This basically identifies the meaning of race to Munoz, it is a superficial category to assort whether “you’re either Mexican or you’re not.” Ethnicity on the other hand is more sentimental to Munoz. It is what makes you, you. However, Munoz makes the point that in today’s society, the importance of ethnicity is being sculpted and changed to “The American way”. This change is going so far as to almost diminish the importance of where you came from. “When you hear a Mexican name spoken in these towns, regardless of the speaker’s background, it’s no wonder that there is an “English way” of pronouncing it.” This quote signifies just how much your surroundings can alter the significance of your ethnicity. Munoz realizes this and seems discouraged by the fact that your ethnicity, or where you came from, has turned into an Americanized, irrelevant piece of information. Lastly, Munoz stresses a big importance on the meaning of culture, and the tragedy that comes from losing it. He stresses the current issues that erupt from the loss of culture in the Valley. He says, “The awareness of cultural difference is stripped down to the interactions between only two groups, whites and Mexicans.” This bothers Munoz because he holds his past customs, religion, and general way of life near and dear to him, and the next generation will be not have nearly the amount of appreciation he holds for it. Culture plays a major role in Munoz’s piece because it stresses its importance and how vital it is to who you are. With so much prejudice surrounding race and ethnicity, culture is something you should hold on to. The overall purpose of introducing these three separate concepts is to highlight the sad reality. Much to Munoz’s displease, today’s society is composed of overgeneralizations, insensitivity to ethnic differences, and an up and coming generation that is apathetic towards their own culture.

    • Personally it bothers me how our society has made people to feel like they need to hide their cultures. Culture should be something that defines who you are and your backround, but instead people are forced by society to hide who they really are just to get ahead in life. Although you have to ask yourself this, at what point are people allowing this to happen. BY playing into this prejudice it only pushes that harder onto society as a whole and somewhat makes it acceptable. There comes a point where the prejudiced people need to stand up and make a change.

    • After reading Yoshimo’s piece on “covering”, I believe the act of covering plays ties to Munoz’s displease with the loss of culture in society and upcoming generations. Adding on to what you have said, the ethnicity of other cultures seems to be adapting towards a more “American” way of life due to people covering their true cultures/ethnicities in order to assimilate and feel like a part of the dominant and mainstream society. Again, covering reveals itself as the cause of Monoz’s concern for loss of identity and is something that all people do.

      • I’ve made this connection as well. It seems that a huge problem among various groups of people is the loss of their culture and identify. Yoshino says that he believes that we must step out of the law to really view humanity as a whole and seeing both yoshino and Munoz lose their culture and identity really puts into perspective that everyone is going through something that they feel sets then aside from others. Everyone has their own battles and as a whole humanity suffers from something that society puts down. That’s a common struggle that everyone experiences no matter what their sexuality, gender, culture, religion or ethnicity and maybe it takes all of our struggles to realize that we aren’t that much different and we should all embrace the way that we are.

    • To me, people today “cover” what really makes them, them. Both Munoz and Yoshimo’s pieces really focus on people’s identity. Keeping what Yoshimo said in mind, people don’t cover up the fact that they’re African-American, they cover what makes them African-American by not “acting black.” People who identify as gay don’t deny being gay, but instead- to fit into mainstream society, don’t act so flamboyant. I feel that’s what Munoz and Yoshimo really wanted people to see they’re in fact doing. In today’s society, we don’t hide what we are, but hide who we are, or the person we’ve become.

    • After reading Yoshino’s article I can see how his idea of “covering” fits in with Munoz’s article. Munoz talks about how people in his culture, change their name to fit into society and how people don’t openly show their culture outside of the house. Which refers back to D.W Winnicott from Yoshino’s article about “a true self and false self”. Outside of your home and family you may act like your “false self”, oppose to inside the comfort of your home where you can show your “true self”. Like Rachel Said, “today’s society is composed of overgeneralizations, insensitivity to ethnic differences”. And that in my opinion is where “covering” or showing your “false self” comes in. To protect people from cultural differences and the harsh reality that some people still are not open to multiculturalism.

    • Both pieces focus on the fact that people are trying to cover who they actually are by means of culture, race and or anything else along those lines. I believe that this can go along the lines of what Yoshino was saying about True Self and False Self. In Munoz’s piece, he compared them to being public life and private life. Public life would be the False Self and Private Life would be the true self. Also how your private life is the life that you are trying to cover.

    • After reading “covering” by Yoshimo’s. I personally feel that each individual is forced in someway to fit within society. As far as cultural background it should be something we as an individuals should embrace not feel embarrassed. I feel our backgrounds and childhood is what makes us unique and stand out. I personally think it’s wrong for society to criticize for one to be their “true self”. No one should feel the urge to have to change or to put up a “mask” to just to fit within society. It personally bothers me that society often misjudge an individual based on race, national origin, sexual orientation, religion, disability and etc. It’s just wrong!

    • I think that both of these readings are really trying to highlight just how much the culture in the United States is changing. Obviously it would be horrible to have to change aspects of who you are just to be able to have a life but even if you change your name or culture you don’t have to change who you are. I think an important thing to remember is that yes your name is a very important piece of who you are but at the end of the day it’s just something people call you. If you alter your name in order to fit in, as much as that sucks, it allows doors to be opened that here in the United States would be closed if you were foreign. Allowing for those doors to open means that that person would have a chance at a better life and deep down would know who they really are.

    • I really like the way you worded your last sentence; to me, it seemed like an accurate summary of the sad reality surrounding the loss of cultures. It doesn’t seem right or fair at all that losing yourself and stripping your identity will help you succeed in the world, but the up and coming generation’s recent trend of just giving in and ‘Americanizing’ themselves seems to actually be a part of the problem since they aren’t fighting as passionately to embrace themselves and where they come from.

    • I agree with Rachel when she says, “much to Munoz’s displease, today’s society is composed of overgeneralizations, insensitivity to ethnic differences, and an up and coming generation that is apathetic towards their own culture.” This is becoming more of a norm he on the east coast where we mix so many different cultures. I don’t think younger generations do it to be disrespectful but i feel we live in a place where we can chose who we want to be and sometimes it can be different from how our grandparents were raised.

    • I completely agree with Rachel. In this reading, Munoz has brought to the surface a very serious matter. To those who it generally does not affect, this piece would (in my opinion) not hit home for them. For those with different backgrounds, and must face this type of oppression on a daily basis; this is our life… Our struggle. To not feel comfortable in one’s own skin should be a crime. To not feel comfortable with a name that not only symbolizes your culture, but your identity as well is disturbing. We live in a society where if you don’t conform to the normal standards set by White Americans, you won’t survive. You will not thrive unless you pave your own way and set barriers aside. Also, Munoz highlighted a great example pertaining to the fact that not all Americans are the same. When he ventured into a more diversified area, he had realized what he has been missing out on this whole time. He was missing out on the opportunity to actually come across people who are interested in his uniqueness. He was given the opportunity to meet people who care. At that very moment, he realized his cultural background did matter. Our society today is corrupt and needs a real change.

  2. I feel that Munoz views the private and public lives for Latinos in California almost opposite. Outside of the house you speak English, and maybe not care so much if people mispronounce your name. If possible use the “English equivalent” as your name, or an American name that sounds close. In the privacy of their homes you would speak Spanish, and use your birth name. As the generations pass I think both lives grew closer.

  3. #2: I think Munoz sees their public lives as front and their private lives as concealing who they are, and acting how they think they’re expected to. In public, they speak English and change the pronunciation of their names but in private it’s mostly Spanish being spoken.

  4. 2# Munoz see’s the public and private lives of Latinos in California in a conservative manner. He noticed that they don’t want to be misjudged by others in the public so they keep to the native language and avoid any confrontation with other Latinos. But once away from the public they are back to who they really are in their private lives. He feels that many Latinos have a “mask” on so they may fit in society and enjoy life without criticism. He also stresses about how Latinos are forced to change their names to make work more available because if they were to keep their original names it would not give them many opportunities for jobs.

  5. Prompt #2
    Public life and private life are very different for Latinos in California. In California, Munoz lives in a small town where there is not much diversity and because of this not many people understand his culture or how to say his name. He feels as if he cannot speak Spanish in public because it makes him an outsider. So in his pubic life Munoz lives in a world where no one can pronounce his name correctly and he speaks English to try and fit in the best that he can. In his private life he speaks Spanish and his name is pronounced correctly, but he is still ashamed of his culture because he feels that it is looked down upon so he can’t really enjoy his culture really in private either. Munoz doesn’t believe that his private life and public life could ever join together so he is basically living a double life where in private he can be his true self, but in public he is just an outsider doing his best to fit in by allowing people to mistake his identity and not care about how to really say his name and speaking English so that he can fit in best as possible.

  6. Munoz sees that Latinos in California are forced to live two different lives. They’re led to believe that there is a certain way they are suppose to act in public that is more socially acceptable than the way they conduct themselves in private. Latinos are made to be ashamed of speaking Spanish. Society makes it so that they are forced to learn and speak English in the assumption that they will “fit in” and become more “normal”. The difference between these two lives is that Latinos are shifting back and forth from being who they want to be and who they have to be. It has become essential for Latinos to learn English and in that process they become more embarrassed of their Spanish language, which leads to their lose of importance for their culture.

  7. #3 In my personal opinion, I feel as if when Munoz stated, “the mutability of the English language” he meant the English comparison. I got the sense that when he mentioned the part about names, he was saying it was technically allowing those who primarily speak English a chance to be able to correctly pronounce a different ethnicities name. I didn’t see much over a deeper meaning behind it. It was simply a matter of accessibility to me. Something that a person of another culture could relate to.

  8. Prompt #3

    I think Munoz is talking about how people tend to be more comfortable with things they are familiar with. One of the biggest issues going on right now is immigration. This scares certain individuals in the United States as people they are not familiar and thus not comfortable with, are now living in their neighborhoods. English is clearly the dominant language in the majority of the country, so those who are scared use the power of English to make these foreigners sound more familiar to them. Munoz uses the example of how Hispanic names “slipped into the mutability of English” to highlight how these names were changed to sound more “American” so it would be easier to fit in.

  9. Question #2

    Munoz sees both public and private lives, of a Latino person in California, as two different things. To quote Munoz from the last paragraph of page 309 leading to page 310, he says that “Most of us had learned English early and splintered off into a dual existence of English at school, Spanish at home…English was for public display, Spanish was for privacy–and privacy quickly turned to shame.” What I believe Munoz means about the private life of a Latino person is that it is a place, like home, where Latinos can speak Spanish and use there non anglicized name without the fear of facing criticism, racism, or the irrational fear of not fitting in at all. The public life of a Latino person is the opposite. In public they use there Anglicized name and speak English with the possibility of using a little bit of code-switching, without caring who is listening. They believe that if you speak English, you will fit in more and will be treated a lot better, be it a workplace or anywhere in public.

  10. #2
    I feel that Munoz views their public life as being somewhat fake since they feel that they cannot speak in their native language. They have to deal with constant mispronunciation and weird looks if they speak in their native language. In the privacy of their homes they are pleased with the opportunity to embrace their native culture. They don’t have to worry about mispronunciation or mystified looks when they speak in their native language.

  11. Culture plays a large part in Manuel Munoz’s text “Leave Your Name at the Border”. Munoz defines culture as the language people speak and the accent they inherit because of it. Munoz also defines culture as where a person is from and most importantly their name (traditional or non traditional). However, I believe culture differs from race because culture is more specific to where a person comes from and their way of life while race is more of a characterization of a person into a group based off of appearance. For example, I can say I participate in Haitian culture based off of the fact that I speak Haitian Creole, I eat Haitian food, and because “Blaise” is a Haitian last name. On the other hand another person can see my complexion and label me as black (my “race”) and believe I am part of general black culture, even though I could be Jamaican, Trinidadian, or Dominican (etc. all of which that differ from Haitian culture). Therefore culture is different from race and more similar to ethnicity. (.)

  12. After reading Yoshinos “covering” I have noticed many similarities between the two stories we’ve read. They both touch upon our true identities more specifically our “true self” and “false self”. In Munoz story he shows us how people are not the same compared to being with their family and with strangers. I believe that in Munoz story the people who felt different when not with their family were experiencing their “false self”. When they were with their families they were their “true self” since they described that they didn’t feel out of place and could act freely without judgement. After all it does make sense that people may not be their “true self” when they are with people they are unfamiliar with.

  13. After reading both articles I understand why both Munoz and Yoshimo both feel culture is being forgotten but i don’t feel people are doing it to “cover” or fit in. There are so many races and cultures that are mixed in America, you can’t adopt all ways of your culture. Changing some routines and values isn’t always a bad thing. I think more like the woman that criticizes Yoshimo’s idea of “covering,” while discussing the African -american man studying German romantic poetry “because he was seized by it.”

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